(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian] GN[Strasbourg Championship semi-finals table 1]PW[HORA jan]PB[CHO seokbin]WR[6d]BR[7d]DT[2011-05-15]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/] ;B[pd] ;W[dp] ;B[pq] ;W[dd] ;B[fq]C[zazie [-\]: les noms des joueurs ? ... ] ;W[cn] ;B[ip] ;W[po] ;B[pl] ;W[no] ;B[nq] ;W[qq] ;B[qr] ;W[lo] ;B[pi]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: done. Thx zazie superREDS [1d\]: go bin Kachnak [2d\]: Go J. Hora!!!! HisokaH [-\]: oyo ] ;W[qp] ;B[or] ;W[kp] ;B[fc]C[Kachnak [2d\]: current position seems allready somehow akward for w :( ] ;W[hc] ;B[cc] ;W[dc] ;B[cd] ;W[de] ;B[db] ;W[eb] ;B[cb] ;W[ec] ;B[cf]C[AsiuKC [11k\]: c15 scurge [5d\]: I wonder if L4 isn't too slow CptHook [5k\]: you mean awkward Kachnak [2d\]: whatever :) lealo [14k\]: funny bot ShapeMaker [7k\]: From Germany? ] ;W[dr]C[lealo [14k\]: yeah ^^ ] ;B[jc]C[miksu [3k\]: b looks favorable and not only because of seokbin :) Faonig [3k\]: yep ] ;W[ch] ;B[cg] ;W[dh] ;B[fd]C[Feelss [5k\]: h15? xDragon [-\]: no broadcast i assume? ] ;W[gb] ;B[ef]C[Wigz [8k\]: ouch ] ;W[jd] ;B[kc]C[Wigz [8k\]: looklike no realy good for w :x ] ;W[df] ;B[dg] ;W[eg]C[AsiuKC [11k\]: black win scurge [5d\]: now way man, no way ] ;B[ff] ;W[fg]C[AsiuKC [11k\]: h14 ? EdhelDil [3k\]: xDragon: no broadcast, sorry :( CptHook [5k\]: wasn't j16 urgent for w? ] ;B[gg]C[scurge [5d\]: i tought w b12 fast ] ;W[bh] ;B[ce]C[Feelss [5k\]: ) Tasky [1d\]: cut cut CptHook [5k\]: h15? Laman [1d\]: G14? CptHook [5k\]: cut works bad i think Lentyi [2d\]: g15 ? Lentyi [2d\]: =) ] ;W[id] ;B[hf] ;W[ge] ;B[gf]C[workforce [2d\]: cant cut because of b having played c15 CptHook [5k\]: they meant f14.. CptHook [5k\]: g14* Laman [1d\]: go, Jan! Wizzos [1d\]: a15 ? Tasky [1d\]: ? mafutrct [-\]: f16 means war workforce [2d\]: w a15 sente but not more.... Lentyi [2d\]: i like first holynec [?\]: cho seokbin is the scariest man on the earth Lentyi [2d\]: f18 ] ;W[he]C[mafutrct [-\]: tbh i'd be scared if a 7d played f16 against me ] ;B[fb] ;W[fa]C[mafutrct [-\]: and i'm not that easily scared ._. ] ;B[jf]C[mafutrct [-\]: wow, white's shape sucks Tasky [1d\]: now b will get nice points on top Kachnak [2d\]: i dont get h15 ] ;W[kd]C[mafutrct [-\]: yes, looks just heavy mafutrct [-\]: picture book attack for b mamutik [1d\]: kachnak: me neither scurge [5d\]: h15 = can cut three stones + helps shape it looks ok to mee mauno [2k\]: k14 instead of h 15 for white mafutrct [-\]: no ] ;B[lc]C[Kanin [6d\]: cut three stones? mafutrct [-\]: it cant cut faignantix [4d\]: can't cut CptHook [5k\]: w cant cut at f15 ] ;W[ld]C[Faonig [3k\]: lol mafutrct [-\]: w k14 certainly looked better and more natural instead of h15 Kanin [6d\]: delusions scurge [5d\]: ah cant cut ^^ mauno [2k\]: white's position is just awful already faignantix [4d\]: so h15 looks very bad Faonig [3k\]: xD Kanin [6d\]: perhaps white also felt it could cut, otherwise I see no reason for H15 scurge [5d\]: I dont get H15 ] ;B[md]C[mafutrct [-\]: g11 is another sente for b, so the shape he got in the center is great ] ;W[me] ;B[nd] ;W[lf] ;B[kh]C[faignantix [4d\]: it will be very hard for w now mafutrct [-\]: w needs to attack j4 in a very large scale way to compensate mamutik [1d\]: maybe it´s just a mistake by white ... but unexpectable one ... mafutrct [-\]: there is no way he'll be able to do that though. Laman [1d\]: amazing and sad at the same time how easily can Cho get advantage against a 6d Tasky [1d\]: b will strengthen center by this attack and will therefore helpj4 scurge [5d\]: w is in no position to attack, but the position is far from hopeless for white mafutrct [-\]: heh, even i could get some nice attack running after h15 :) grimmjow1 [1d\]: was a missread probably CptHook [5k\]: w g16 probably eye and sente scurge [5d\]: now how to make sabaki or "haengma" is crucial ] ;W[gi] ;B[mh]C[Longshi [-\]: tenuki is a pretty unique way to make haengma Kanin [6d\]: H15 was almost like passing, I think the result is terrible for white mamutik [1d\]: just wait for white to show himself, don´t be so hopeless ;) mafutrct [-\]: g16 is not sente locally, and only half an eye mafutrct [-\]: also, its going backwards mafutrct [-\]: like passing mafutrct [-\]: there is no way white would want to play there mafutrct [-\]: unless he is desperate for life Wizzos [1d\]: f15 e15 e19 d19 g19 e16 and then a15 more than sente? CptHook [5k\]: it is a big eye ] ;W[of]C[mafutrct [-\]: big eye? that is impossible by definition o.o scurge [5d\]: was g11 si important? I tought that if e12 white can sacrifice 2 stones? edo1 [5k\]: should spoile the big moyo edo1 [5k\]: like that 4example ? CptHook [5k\]: why is g16 half of eye? ] ;B[qf]C[Longshi [-\]: probably white feels unless he turns left into big potential he'll just be suffering until the end of the game mafutrct [-\]: because of the weaknessed at j15, j17, j18 way2good [1k?\]: this is so over Longshi [-\]: but I don't like g11 at all XD even shapewise you just feel like b will end up playing f11 ^^ ] ;W[gd]C[mafutrct [-\]: i think g11 is a trap for b to over-attack ] ;B[eh]C[CptHook [5k\]: if b j15 w j17 Muscadet [?\]: g11 looks like a bad shape move. Kanin [6d\]: G11 is also necessary if white wants to have any prospects of counter-attacking scurge [5d\]: after g11 e12 is so good for b ] ;W[fh] ;B[ei]C[Kanin [6d\]: agreed, I think the local shape should be white F11 mafutrct [-\]: now kill 2 stones mafutrct [-\]: or res :\\ Feelss [5k\]: and l 13 dont work for w? nanotech [2k\]: b is preventing l13 cut scurge [5d\]: but hmm, so white is alive still ko at r17 (i hope) and weakness around k13 Longshi [-\]: white living at r17 is not entirely obvious though ^^ CptHook [5k\]: w j13 and l13 maybe? AsiuKC [11k\]: j13 is good scurge [5d\]: longshi: yea mainly because it kills l16 ] ;W[gk]C[mamutik [1d\]: white must have had some plan with g11 with all the possibilities ... yvontex: Bonjour~ CptHook [5k\]: i think w can make a second eye easy.. ] ;B[ek]C[scurge [5d\]: white is the most ressourceful player I know, so I think this game can still turn around ] ;W[ck] ;B[cl]C[Kachnak [2d\]: black playing this fast seems pretty confident... ] ;W[bl] ;B[cj]C[StrasChp3 [-\]: black has used 10min, white 30min Tasky [1d\]: b getting shapp Kanin [6d\]: C10 looks like extending kindness to white, what an aji-killer ] ;W[bj] ;B[dk] ;W[bk] ;B[gl] ;W[hl]C[Tasky [1d\]: I think w's only chance is to make a splitting attack on j4 and e9 ] ;B[gm]C[Tasky [1d\]: and then exploit l13 zen [1d\]: e7 mafutrct [-\]: w is too thin mafutrct [-\]: h9, g10 issues prevent anything Kanin [6d\]: sadly, white is too weak in the center to fight adequately CptHook [5k\]: f10 sente Feelss [5k\]: but need to try something Feelss [5k\]: looks last opotunitys scurge [5d\]: I would feel like wanting to play p12 as white ASAP edo1 [5k\]: w should cut at k12 edo1 [5k\]: somehow CptHook [5k\]: w f10 and f9.? ManInMe [6k\]: I like the Somehow xD ] ;W[hm]C[Rock2 [1d\]: somehow = with 6d magic ManInMe [6k\]: :p mafutrct [-\]: h7 is a special plan CptHook [5k\]: plan to die mafutrct [-\]: usually, one would want to play f9 in this shape, but it fails mafutrct [-\]: the idea is h7 f9 g10 and g6 ends in gote mafutrct [-\]: so w can use k13 mafutrct [-\]: and if b prevents k13, w can g6 himself zen [1d\]: actually usually you would want to play e7 mafutrct [-\]: e7 looks like overplay zen [1d\]: sure, because w is a bit too weak mafutrct [-\]: e7 is not very important i believe CptHook [5k\]: idea, but b can cut at h9 mafutrct [-\]: on this board, it's survival mafutrct [-\]: it's not about minor shape details ] ;B[hj]C[mafutrct [-\]: oh my, there goes the special plan edo1 [5k\]: s...t. now securing the cut edo1 [5k\]: with swear attack Kanin [6d\]: white can think about going for a trade Kanin [6d\]: hane at G6 Kanin [6d\]: it's the only avenue of hope i can find in this situation xDragon [-\]: for j4 stones right Kanin [6d\]: right Tasky [1d\]: can't b live on bottom with k2 ? mafutrct [-\]: i think k2 only lives 90% Hokkanen [8k\]: Black up? Kanin [6d\]: probably, so either way white is pretty hopeless :) scurge [5d\]: so what if white connectes? Hokkanen [8k\]: Black's played some pretty nice moves Kanin [6d\]: regardless of which connection you mean I will cut scurge [5d\]: g10 h9 h11 k10 j11 k9 f8 f7 e7 Hokkanen [8k\]: f18 for sente was cool edo1 [5k\]: so probably to press the black g14 group was the best choice for w. Kanin [6d\]: scurge, I see no reason why black couldn't hane after white H11 Hokkanen [8k\]: w thinking a while CptHook [5k\]: i would connect at g10 and then on the 11 th line scurge [5d\]: hmm lealo [14k\]: time left? Kanin [6d\]: I'm not saying it's a simple read, but it looks harder for white from where I'm standing scurge [5d\]: yeah pretty much blurb: i have a suspicion who might meet in the final no surprise though :) Hokkanen [8k\]: Cho and Dai? blurb: when will be final? ManInMe [6k\]: yup scurge [5d\]: i tought smth like g10 h9 h11 j11 j10 j9 k10 k9 j12 k11 k13 j13 l13 but this is pretty hopeless for white CptHook [5k\]: yup StrasChp1 [-\]: 15min left for white EGMutex [6d\]: w cant save all StrasChp1 [-\]: 45 min for black lealo [14k\]: thx scurge [5d\]: or is it? EGMutex [6d\]: f13 lost oupas [11k?\]: hmm sorry 45 min use or left ? Laman [1d\]: left Feelss [5k\]: left StrasChp1 [-\]: left oupas [11k?\]: thx ^^ Kanin [6d\]: this is why I think whites only chance is to go for a trade, although it looks hard StrasChp1 [-\]: np Muscadet [?\]: g6 and go for an exchange? CptHook [5k\]: i think only way scurge...all or nothing to save CptHook [5k\]: but can w read so far? scurge [5d\]: ^^ sure ] ;W[gn]C[CptHook [5k\]: hmm, nice one ] ;B[gj]C[CptHook [5k\]: after h3 b is crashed.. Samui [2k\]: black e 16 ? Samui [2k\]: and attack ? Kanin [6d\]: there is still much room for B to handle lightly on the bottom ] ;W[kr]C[Kanin [6d\]: but atleast the game continues for a while longer, white can seek chances alibigood [2k\]: w cant eat f17 Samui [2k\]: yeah i mean it with e 16 ^^ ] ;B[in]C[Samui [2k\]: cant eat CptHook [5k\]: why w not f8 CptHook [5k\]: small ] ;W[jm] ;B[hn] ;W[fn] ;B[kn]C[Kanin [6d\]: M8? WWSD [2k\]: probably Slayan [6k\]: who leads? EGMutex [6d\]: m8 k8 ] ;W[fj]C[Kanin [6d\]: perhaps one of the best ways to try and beat players like Cho is to appeal to their strong confidence i nliving anywhere, sometimes they will be over-confident :) CptHook [5k\]: f10 very bad ] ;B[fk]C[WWSD [2k\]: haha nice sport psychology tip:P sixgen [3d\]: the number of cutting points in the w shape just exceeded my counting ability.. jisback [8k\]: white bad move Kanin [6d\]: psychology is my major, afterall ;) ] ;W[hk] ;B[ij]C[Samui [2k\]: k9? WWSD [2k\]: i dont think white gaiedn anything from that exchange WWSD [2k\]: gained* ] ;W[jj]C[Kanin [6d\]: right, F10 looks like a rash move WWSD [2k\]: when in doubt... tsuke Kanin [6d\]: ah? this nose-tesuji is brilliant? Kanin [6d\]: hohoho Bogin [-\]: j7? CptHook [5k\]: b can f11 ] ;B[im]C[Kanin [6d\]: yeah, J7 looks great AsiuKC [11k\]: f8 jisback [8k\]: yes Kanin [6d\]: white is collapsed jisback [8k\]: bad move WWSD [2k\]: i kinda feel bad for white, trying SO HARD just to break even jisback [8k\]: f8 EGMutex [6d\]: resign moulix [1d\]: :D StrasChp1 [-\]: white resign Muscadet [?\]: over DarkMastor [9k\]: f8 CptHook [5k\]: w complicated to much i guess AsiuKC [11k\]: black win Kanin [6d\]: whites opening is hard already after black is allowed to get K17+F16 Stinson [6d\]: k10 is a fake suji --' Kanin [6d\]: it got even more difficult after the puzzling move at h15 CptHook [5k\]: now only f8 mauno [2k\]: k10 is just nonsense Kanin [6d\]: but white deserves credit for showing good fighting spirit at the bottom CptHook [5k\]: not really was a fight bottom Stinson [6d\]: i love white group at the bottom <3 donGoku [3k\]: resign, no another way... donGoku [3k\]: oh... CptHook [5k\]: is the game over? AltTab [3d\]: yes CptHook [5k\]: stras? CptHook [5k\]: ahh, sorry i Kaytee [5k\]: hi, where can i c the results? loikun [5k\]: see StrasChp infos : http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ ])