(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian] GN[Strasbourg Championship Final]PW[DAI Junfu]PB[CHO Seokbin]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2011-05-15]EV[International championship of Strasbourg]RO[round 4]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]WT[China]BT[Korea]C[Holmes [-\]: ces deux-là ? surprise ] ;B[dp] ;W[pp] ;B[dc] (;W[pc] ;B[nc]) (;W[pd] ;B[nc] ;W[qf] ;B[kd] ;W[de]C[Wigz [8k\]: on sent l'ironie ] ;B[dh] ;W[fe] ;B[fc] ;W[he] ;B[dk]C[Wigz [8k\]: ça va être rapide :3 GocchiSama [1d\]: go bin go Wigz [8k\]: GO DAI GO :3 YuaiYi [4d\]: Agréable de voir que l'on peut jouer vite et rès bien à la fois mafutrct [-\]: great match, top euro players :) Holmes [-\]: ça a peu de chances d'être rapide, en fait ] ;W[cc]C[kenshinlt [1k\]: DAI SURE WIN !!!!! ] ;B[cb] ;W[ic]C[pupukani [3k\]: why didnt b g16? ToDie [4d\]: is there a homepage showing the results? mafutrct [-\]: pup, because l16 GocchiSama [1d\]: un lien pour connaitre la liste des participant? pupukani [3k\]: ok, thanks : pupukani [3k\]: D Aokame [1k\]: there is todie Balaine [-\]: pourquoi je suis pas surpris de la finale x) YuaiYi [4d\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ Daisetsu [-\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ StrasChp1 [-\]: merci ToDie [4d\]: thx StrasChp1 [-\]: for the 4th round StrasChp1 [-\]: Debarre vs Blamback StrasChp1 [-\]: Fenech vs Vecheider Aokame [1k\]: finally announcement and i pray no more scribe mistakes pls. itw as so annoying going through the games yesterday and seeing 10 omitted moves , this is slow torunament, no need for it StrasChp1 [-\]: Palant is on his chair but not his opponent daladim [1d\]: go dai :D Balaine [-\]: Dai s'énerve déjà ? Wigz [8k\]: daladim [1d\]: go dai :D Balaine [-\]: Seokbin a du draguer la même fille que lui :D Wigz [8k\]: :3 ] ;B[cd] ;W[ce]C[daladim [1d\]: ^_^ StrasChp1 [-\]: Yesterday there were some disconnected ] ;B[bc]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: Papazoglou vs Lin mafutrct [-\]: i think this helps with the j16 cut StrasChp1 [-\]: Tarumi vs Silt ] ;W[kb]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: Prokop vs Obenaus Balaine [-\]: lol mafutrct are you on every game :o mafutrct [-\]: this is the only game im watching right now YuaiYi [4d\]: Q17 mafutrct [-\]: i just blahblah a lot ] ;B[lc]C[Balaine [-\]: lol Fredrik beat Ondrej ? he has become strong over the past years.. ] ;W[je]C[mafutrct [-\]: j16 fixed, now b needs to prevent w from pressuring ] ;B[lf]C[mafutrct [-\]: n14 looks like shape, but id prever q17 ] ;W[oc]C[Aokame [1k\]: look PM mafuctrct ] ;B[nd]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: Csaba comes and play vs Palant Gylis [2d?\]: they play fast blurb: is there a favourite in this game? StrasChp1 [-\]: Dai souffle et s ap^puie sur la table jouant avec les pierres ] ;W[jq] ;B[qn] ;W[pn] ;B[pm] ;W[qo] ;B[on] ;W[po]C[Balaine [-\]: obviously white isn't happy with the top ] ;B[om] ;W[np] ;B[qh] ;W[of] ;B[oh]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: les deux joueurs jouent vite sans prendre le temps d appuyer sur la pendule à chaque fois ] ;W[rm] ;B[rl] ;W[rn] ;B[ql]C[Minotaur [1k\]: lol kenshinlt [1k\]: hein? Minotaur [1k\]: c'est sur le tps de qui ? kenshinlt [1k\]: oui? StrasChp1 [-\]: un coup l un un coup l autre kenshinlt [1k\]: lol Minotaur [1k\]: pfff lol ] ;W[rh]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: 4 minutes pour Dai et 6 pour Cho Minotaur [1k\]: ça se compense alors Aokame [1k\]: how long are the time controls? StrasChp1 [-\]: 1h ] ;B[ri] ;W[qg] ;B[ph]C[Aokame [1k\]: they are very fast, and sorry if yesterday was a disconnection mafutrct [-\]: r17 still possible? ] ;W[cn]C[Aokame [1k\]: wasnt obvious through kifu Balaine [-\]: the thing is blurb: r17 q18 mafutrct [-\]: i think b plays too patient Balaine [-\]: normally black doesn't tenuki at D9 Balaine [-\]: it's hard for white to answer properly Aokame [1k\]: patience is always good ] ;B[co] ;W[dn] ;B[fp] ;W[fn]C[Balaine [-\]: when black plays D9 usually he has played G16 before StrasChp1 [-\]: yesterday and this morning I was Straschp2 so I don t known why there was a problem but I known there werer some disconnection mafutrct [-\]: well, if i play very patient and lose by 40 points it was bad :P StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho leaves the table mafutrct [-\]: but g16 does not work with l16 Balaine [-\]: it does Balaine [-\]: because then white can only do kosumi Balaine [-\]: and not keima mafutrct [-\]: yes but then b is still split Balaine [-\]: ye but then black can play Q17 Balaine [-\]: sharing the corner StrasChp1 [-\]: cho's return mafutrct [-\]: in that case, why didnt b g16 after w j17 Mito [-\]: is there a video stream? Balaine [-\]: the approach of D15 itself, is hard mafutrct [-\]: it should still work ] ;B[ip] ;W[jp]C[Balaine [-\]: yes but no, because white wouldn't answer in the same way after D9 StrasChp1 [-\]: no video stream ] ;B[io] ;W[iq]C[mafutrct [-\]: how could w answer differently? mafutrct [-\]: it looks like a one way street to me chuffy [2d?\]: Bottom right is exorbitantly huge. White gambling on D6' health. Balaine [-\]: hmm that's hard to say perhaps i'm not strong enough Balaine [-\]: but out of all the pro games i remember G16 was the way mafutrct [-\]: even with l16? Balaine [-\]: yes mafutrct [-\]: i see Balaine [-\]: but with D9 after of course mafutrct [-\]: yeah Balaine [-\]: playing L16 and D12 black expects white to split him Wigz [8k\]: H8 :3 StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho soupire StrasChp1 [-\]: grimace se gratte la tête ] ;B[cl]C[Balaine [-\]: now white has no choice but to grab territory to catch up and let black chase the white gorup Wigz [8k\]: et Dai lui tire la langue :D goren2 [6k\]: w b3? mafutrct [-\]: isnt w ahead in terms of terr? ] ;W[el]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: il hoche la tete en touchant les pierres du goban les unes apres les autres Balaine [-\]: now yes Kachnak [2d\]: weird shape? Balaine [-\]: with J3 ] ;B[ek] ;W[fk] ;B[fj] ;W[gk]C[mafutrct [-\]: black only got like 35-40 pts goren2 [6k\]: is b q2 still possible? mafutrct [-\]: w is at 40-455+komi Balaine [-\]: lol mafutrct [-\]: *40-45 Balaine [-\]: you can't really count anything yet :) Balaine [-\]: at least not like that mafutrct [-\]: oh, sure, why not Balaine [-\]: the black territory at the bottom is open chuffy [2d?\]: He means he can't. minoru19 [2d\]: so w has 1.5 points minoru19 [2d\]: xDDD mafutrct [-\]: i didnt cound that q11 [2d\]: seems like plack should have peeped at e7 before c8 ] ;B[gj]C[mafutrct [-\]: i counted 10 for the left, 10 for the right, 15 for UL and a little more ] ;W[hk]C[Balaine [-\]: I see Wigz [8k\]: i think just help w to push bert [2d\]: you can always count your fingers and toes, if you need to count that badly Balaine [-\]: hehe mafutrct [-\]: i dont see a problem with counting at this stage :P Balaine [-\]: i wouldn't know how to chase this properly ] ;B[hj] ;W[ik]C[Balaine [-\]: since white can cut in the upper right mafutrct [-\]: build up the right side i think Wigz [8k\]: w just happy scurge [5d\]: try to feel the stones instead of counting :) mafutrct [-\]: like, l9 j10 l11 j12 n5 or something PogoGo [?\]: b has confidence in doing so, or he wouldn't have played j5 goren2 [6k\]: h7? StrasChp1 [-\]: Silt vs Tarumi Balaine [-\]: white would want stop being chased mafutrct ] ;B[go]C[scurge [5d\]: wow what a move ] ;W[bn]C[Balaine [-\]: nice mafutrct [-\]: well, what else could b do? StrasChp1 [-\]: Fenech vs Vecheider StrasChp1 [-\]: Csaba vs Palant mafutrct [-\]: chase w into his potential moyo? Balaine [-\]: B6 is huge StrasChp1 [-\]: Blamback vs Debarre mafutrct [-\]: maybe b can peep at j14 first goren2 [6k\]: b4/ ] ;B[gd] ;W[ge] ;B[ef]C[GocchiSama [1d\]: le top group de strasbourg est presque plus relevé que celui de paris ] ;W[ee] ;B[ib]C[q11 [2d\]: j16 gogo GocchiSama [1d\]: combien de participants en tout? Balaine [-\]: it's complicated black couldn't play B6 because of G5 so now he has to attack this dragon mafutrct [-\]: oh, w not alive at the top either :) StrasChp1 [-\]: http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ ] ;W[hb]C[mafutrct [-\]: j18 is difficult to spot for me StrasChp1 [-\]: Dai cheap beaucoip avant de jouer Wigz [8k\]: cheap? bert [2d\]: k17 mafutrct [-\]: in fact i dont see how it works. Balaine [-\]: lol mafutrct [-\]: black only gets a few sente moves or maybe yose but i doubt he wants that Minotaur [1k\]: h17 ? StrasChp1 [-\]: comment dis tu cheaper en anglais ? ] ;B[hc] ;W[hd] ;B[gc] ;W[jc]C[Wigz [8k\]: comme le renard de dora? Balaine [-\]: tu veux dire qu'il tourne les pierres dans sa main ? mafutrct [-\]: ah, now i get it :) ] ;B[gb] ;W[ob]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: non le bruit avec sa bouche StrasChp1 [-\]: chiper mafutrct [-\]: j14 is certainly annoying now, unless w can dodge Balaine [-\]: ha Wigz [8k\]: genre "tsss" scurge [5d\]: white has a lot of territory Claire [?\]: allez Seokbiiiin StrasChp1 [-\]: par exemple Claire [?\]: pardon :) ToDie [4d\]: p18 is nice timing gasana [3k\]: p18 nice sente chuffy [2d?\]: lol Viktor Lin's description on the page says "19 years old. Single. Austrian Champion 3 times consecutive." Hahaha. Wigz [8k\]: des petits bruits d'agacement? goren2 [6k\]: dawaj Polska! (Since can't root for polish players, could at least root for residents there niark [3d\]: noir va perdre gasana [3k\]: oups Balaine [-\]: lol inark Wigz [8k\]: on est tous pour Dai q11 [2d\]: j14 ! niark [3d\]: il a fait un fuseki moche Minotaur [1k\]: qui ? Dai ? Holmes [-\]: je tiens à nuancer Wigz [8k\]: et Dai est très fort au Yose en plus :x Balaine [-\]: c'est parceque Dai est timide et tout vous trouvez ça mignon niark [3d\]: noir Holmes [-\]: perso, je souhaite qu'il pêrde crouik [?\]: hêhê Holmes [-\]: bref, je pompomme Cho Wigz [8k\]: :O Holmes [-\]: qu'il pêêêêrde, même mooooo [-\]: b is bin7674 Wigz [8k\]: w is ericdai Balaine [-\]: les deux sont célibataires et fort au go crouik [?\]: moi, je suis pour la partie nulle bert [2d\]: ich bin, du bist Balaine [-\]: comment départager ? StrasChp1 [-\]: quand cho semble avoir reflechi et prend une pierre dai prend quelques pierres et les etale devant lui sur la table StrasChp1 [-\]: du coup cho repose sa pierre et reflechi niark [3d\]: lol mafutrct [-\]: i dont understand a word ._. StrasChp1 [-\]: Motoki vient d entrer dans la salle du tournoi PogoGo [?\]: nicht schlimm, mafu Holmes [-\]: that happens when you don't speak the language ;) Minotaur [1k\]: c'est pour dire "j'ai lu une séquence de 15 coups" ? :) daladim [1d\]: lol Balaine [-\]: when cho seems to have thought it up and takes a stone, dai takes some and lines them up in front of him, so cho puts the stone back and thinks again Wigz [8k\]: x) mafutrct [-\]: i am secretly hoping for the scribe to switch to english x3 mooooo [-\]: w is 8d egf blurb: w c3 looks possible now? bert [2d\]: you don't need to speak it, understanding it is enough Wigz [8k\]: and 8d ffg StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho 'stinking, taking a stone so Dai's taking some stone put them on the table et Cho put his stone on the table and re thinking ] ;B[mp] ;W[mo]C[goren2 [6k\]: quick question: under the bios on the tournament website I am not quite sure what the bio for Debarre Thomas is supposed to mean. What cheated Chinese player??? Balaine [-\]: lol Balaine [-\]: :D mooooo [-\]: b also 8d both egf 8d Kachnak [2d\]: so fast gogonuts [4d\]: though move at n4 ] ;B[lo]C[mafutrct [-\]: now that was more than i could have hoped for :) Ga1ahad [3k\]: um ptiscaraB [4k\]: thx gogonuts [4d\]: tough i mean Balaine [-\]: it's called google translate goren2 ] ;W[lp] ;B[mq]C[Ga1ahad [3k\]: wasn't Cho Seokbin in japan teaching inseis? sarinja [3k\]: n6 Balaine [-\]: XD ] ;W[nq]C[mafutrct [-\]: n6 m3 ? ] ;B[gm]C[Ga1ahad [3k\]: or am I thinking about some other person? ] ;W[fm]C[dxxd [-\]: preparations for attack Balaine [-\]: what they wanted to say was that Thomas Debarre beat a Chinese professionnal player in a tournament Minotaur [1k\]: CHO Seokbin n'est pas pro ? Wigz [8k\]: non Kanin [6d\]: I would love to hear the logic behind C6 goren2 [6k\]: heheeh Wigz [8k\]: les deux sont amateur goren2 [6k\]: ok gogonuts [4d\]: time left? Wigz [8k\]: et les deux on un niveau largement pro Faonig [3k\]: sinon il y aurait un "p" pour le level... Balaine [-\]: Cho Seok Bin was a korean trainee to become pro pastlink [1k\]: dai n'est pas 8d ? ptiscaraB [4k\]: j suis 6d , j prend QUI?? Wigz [8k\]: si Balaine [-\]: Dai Junfu was 6d at 8 years old StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho use 23 minutes ans Dai 7 minutes Wigz [8k\]: mais il est inscrit 7d Wigz [8k\]: il est modeste Wigz [8k\]: comme cho Holmes [-\]: EXPDR StrasChp1 [-\]: cho vient de soulever son bol de pierre avant d el re poser sur la table Minotaur [1k\]: Dai est tout sauf modeste :) StrasChp1 [-\]: cela provoque une sourire chez Dai q11 [2d\]: b wants to capture k4? Claire [?\]: Holmes [-\]: bref, je pompomme Cho > et je te rejoins Wigz [8k\]: c'était ironique :3 q11 [2d\]: l4 m3 l3 n2 l2 l5 k5 m6 h3 Claire [?\]: faites lui une bise de ma part même gogonuts [4d\]: chuck norris was 8d when he was 6 bolbi [-\]: même Dai se marre de vos bêtises ! Balaine [-\]: rioualen ? StrasChp1 [-\]: mdr Faonig [3k\]: il sandbagge :p Faonig [3k\]: sans handicap... Claire [?\]: devine banane ] ;B[bo]C[Balaine [-\]: <3 Claire [?\]: L'an dernier Seokbin a battu Dai à ce même tournoi Claire [?\]: mouahaha Kanin [6d\]: might interest people to know that dai junfu studied go together with himountain Wigz [8k\]: et cette année dai prend sa revanche ] ;W[fr]C[Balaine [-\]: ? gogonuts [4d\]: b needs something either in the center or in the bottom right scurge [5d\]: haha f2 is like "you cant do anything to me" :) Blubbel [1d\]: bottom right? Blubbel [1d\]: how? gogonuts [4d\]: together with chasing the center group gogonuts [4d\]: somehow :-) mafutrct [-\]: BR is untouchable.. Faonig [3k\]: left* Balaine [-\]: F2 is threatening to live in the left side because otherwise black will cut off the center in sente and then play L9 gogonuts [4d\]: untuchable in itself gogonuts [4d\]: touch Wigz [8k\]: F2 is : "HAHA you havn't got territory!! " Blubbel [1d\]: think he needs to profit a lot from chasing center group,... but bottom right? gogonuts [4d\]: b has to mount an attack on the center mafutrct [-\]: i'd just kill the center now. ] ;B[jm]C[Balaine [-\]: no choice Wigz [8k\]: going for killing gogonuts [4d\]: but see what i mean? conditions for the lower right could change Faonig [3k\]: w has just to live now Faonig [3k\]: :p StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho leaves the table Goreon [2d\]: tough game for both now mafutrct [-\]: w is only ~80% alive yet Wigz [8k\]: no Blubbel [1d\]: more like 50% Holmes [-\]: ~79% rather emerick [-\]: xd mafutrct [-\]: d8 is a sente eye Wigz [8k\]: i thinked we can be alive or be dead mafutrct [-\]: and g6 is almost an eye bisquit [4k\]: d8 or g6 bisquit [4k\]: cant decide what id play Minotaur [1k\]: 99% alive is called "dead" :) mafutrct [-\]: so i think 80% is fairly accurate :P Wigz [8k\]: 80% is undead or more like a zombie? ] ;W[ij]C[PogoGo [?\]: either it's dead or not. it's just we don't know Wigz [8k\]: or cancerous group? mafutrct [-\]: well if b had 10 stones in the k10 area it would be dead, yes loikun [5k\]: Pairing of last ronde in "Table of all results" at http://www.gostrasbourg.fr/resultats/ , with top players'bio and tournament brackets. Goreon [2d\]: j10 is called th 1000$ move StrasChp1 [-\]: Chos is back ] ;B[ii] ;W[ji]C[YuaiYi [4d\]: tengen ] ;B[ih]C[Balaine [-\]: black chose the path of killing or losing, it's exciting Arhiman [1d\]: m9 ] ;W[kj]C[gogonuts [4d\]: no, its 1000 japanese gold pieces :-) Wigz [8k\]: he didn't choose mafutrct [-\]: i guess c13 is nice for b too ] ;B[if]C[Faonig [3k\]: and he will loose. I believe in Dai ! Wigz [8k\]: he had no choices ] ;W[jd]C[YuaiYi [4d\]: J15 then M18 ] ;B[ie] ;W[id]C[Arhiman [1d\]: then w l13 Wigz [8k\]: certainly Vanya [1k\]: m18 gogonuts [4d\]: j12 stabelizes j14, so there is trouble here too Balaine [-\]: bon ça a l'air bien mort pour blanc là mafutrct [-\]: w j13 looks like a big aji Balaine [-\]: faut pas déconner ] ;B[mb]C[q11 [2d\]: tally ho at m11 Goreon [2d\]: l13 # StrasChp1 [-\]: Dai : humhumhum Minotaur [1k\]: I smell death :) Shanti [-\]: xD Faonig [3k\]: ^^ q11 [2d\]: black has managed to make a splitting attack, well done him gogonuts [4d\]: i hear hum Arhiman [1d\]: go, dai ! YuaiYi [4d\]: J13 PogoGo [?\]: if you smell it, it's probably yourself dying goren2 [6k\]: i think b m17 is gonna die first StrasChp1 [-\]: Jan Hora vient regarder la partie scurge [5d\]: white "over extended" himself a bit here no? :) mafutrct [-\]: im all for w j13 Blubbel [1d\]: think chance for 1 group to live droped below 50% ] ;W[le]C[Blubbel [1d\]: for both Blubbel [1d\]: i mean Minotaur [1k\]: probably :) goren2 [6k\]: o14? mafutrct [-\]: o14 is off topic Faonig [3k\]: lol Faonig [3k\]: xD mafutrct [-\]: dont play light when fightin melee gogonuts [4d\]: L15 doesnt seem to work, maybe o14 mafutrct [-\]: really? then w can almost connect ] ;B[mf]C[gogonuts [4d\]: but forcing w k14 didnt work mafutrct [-\]: yeah but o14 is really too open isnt it? StrasChp1 [-\]: Dai a failli jouer L15 gogonuts [4d\]: ok, n14 is the "i mean bussiness" move pastlink [1k\]: je rève ou il a réfléchi plus d'une minute pour ce coup ? izgonjes [6d\]: omg resign StrasChp1 [-\]: une deuxieme fois L15 gogonuts [4d\]: but it feels as if w will manage ] ;W[ke] ;B[nf]C[Shanti [-\]: lol gogonuts [4d\]: b has to prove too much to win mafutrct [-\]: j13 ._. ] ;W[cg]C[Faonig [3k\]: k13 ? Balaine [-\]: white only needs to make another eye with the center group ] ;B[ch] ;W[bf]C[Shanti [-\]: alive ^ Wigz [8k\]: w alive \\o/ gogonuts [4d\]: center should be fine already with L10 Wigz [8k\]: yey\\o/ izgonjes [6d\]: not jet alive goren2 [6k\]: how is he alive? I see one eye quappe [3d\]: impossible to kill for black Balaine [-\]: L10 ? doesn't make him live yet ] ;B[bh]C[mafutrct [-\]: d8 g6 k10 are three eye possibilities Wigz [8k\]: M16 Balaine [-\]: even L8 doesn't make an eye mafutrct [-\]: its still 80% alive :) gogonuts [4d\]: maybe if b can get more thickness above ... bert [2d\]: l12 flashback [7d\]: w has gote eye at top mafutrct [-\]: if l12 is sente maybe it dies.. StrasChp1 [-\]: half time for Cho and 45 minutes left for Dai YuaiYi [4d\]: K13 Wigz [8k\]: Dai is a machingun flashback [7d\]: m16 l17 m18 n18 k18 h19 m19 gogonuts [4d\]: L12 in sente sounds about like whats going to happen :-) Wigz [8k\]: play 53 moves in 15 minutes mafutrct [-\]: m16 l17 m18 n17 k18 h19 m19 n19 k19 flashback [7d\]: k13 now ToDie [4d\]: was n18 a mistake? m18 better? StrasChp1 [-\]: Dai claque des pierres sur la table goren2 [6k\]: n16 maybe? quappe [3d\]: this looks hopeless, white has so many points ... mafutrct [-\]: but n18 is better for b'S shape Balaine [-\]: well, the two groups being attacked is the consequence of F2 ] ;W[jg] ;B[jh]C[flashback [7d\]: may be m18 better, if no other aji ] ;W[ig]C[mafutrct [-\]: m18 would have given a ton more aji around n15 Wigz [8k\]: i see :) ] ;B[ki]C[gogonuts [4d\]: b needs to kill above or in hte center or break into the bottom right Wigz [8k\]: ho goren2 [6k\]: reversal... Arhiman [1d\]: l8 Wigz [8k\]: L11 is cool mafutrct [-\]: its on. start with d8? ] ;W[hg]C[Faonig [3k\]: oh mafutrct [-\]: aw.. wasnt that alive? gogonuts [4d\]: cool move PogoGo [?\]: now it's on mafutrct [-\]: now d8 quappe [3d\]: i hope black manages to kill goren2 [6k\]: but I seriously wanted to know what b would do if w n16. Anybody explain? ] ;B[jj]C[Balaine [-\]: white is aiming at B8probably ToDie [4d\]: tenuki?^^ Wigz [8k\]: w serach to cut ?H11? ] ;W[jk]C[Faonig [3k\]: x) mafutrct [-\]: b will get sente to play d8 ] ;B[kl]C[gogonuts [4d\]: n16 n17 Minotaur [1k\]: n6 mafutrct [-\]: thats required ] ;W[dl]C[mafutrct [-\]: omg quappe [3d\]: is white really confident he can live `? Arhiman [1d\]: go dai !!!! goren2 [6k\]: and then o15? ] ;B[bl] ;W[ej]C[Faonig [3k\]: yes, he is =) mafutrct [-\]: now its a mess.. Wigz [8k\]: he search to cut :c ] ;B[dj]C[Balaine [-\]: hehe Faonig [3k\]: hmm mafutrct [-\]: aji around g6 and around h11 mafutrct [-\]: also, e4 gogonuts [4d\]: how much time do they have? already byoyomi? Mito [-\]: how much time do they have left? Wigz [8k\]: no Mito [-\]: :P gogonuts [4d\]: lol Mito [-\]: high five, gogonuts Balaine [-\]: white has to find something with G7 goren2 [6k\]: gogonuts - after n17, then o15 - what next? bert [2d\]: h10 Arhiman [1d\]: cho around 28 and dai around 42 tomason [2k\]: I would die with F7 YuaiYi [4d\]: was E10 really sente ? StrasChp1 [-\]: 28 minutes for Cho and 43 minutes for Dai Arhiman [1d\]: awwww :( mafutrct [-\]: i'd start with e4 e3 e5, then begin reading. StrasChp1 [-\]: 1 minutes ALban t es mauvais :) ToDie [4d\]: goren: n15 double atari then Arhiman [1d\]: ... c'est qui ? :) ] ;W[kk]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: je sais pas goren2 [6k\]: m16 then one eye sente? Vanya [1k\]: n16 n15 ToDie [4d\]: w already alive, so it is uselesse ToDie [4d\]: -e YuaiYi [4d\]: why already alive ? ] ;B[gl]C[Arhiman [1d\]: je connais pas de je sais pas ] ;W[fl]C[Faonig [3k\]: ... ] ;B[li]C[q11 [2d\]: e5 scurge [5d\]: does someone sees the second eye? q11 [2d\]: w may wedge e4? Wigz [8k\]: G6 :x ToDie [4d\]: i am talking about the upper group tomason [2k\]: G8 strange mafutrct [-\]: omg.. b play so close to the edge Vanya [1k\]: seems n16 gives eye goren2 [6k\]: yes, upper group alive now becaue lower group is being attacked - but I think w could have been alive in sente Goreon [2d\]: f4 in danger? Minotaur [1k\]: now it's "kill or lose" move for b quappe [3d\]: j7 gogonuts [4d\]: it retrospect L10 was too easygoing ] ;W[im] ;B[hm]C[Balaine [-\]: it was kill or lose 50 moves ago man ] ;W[jn]C[Wigz [8k\]: tesuji \\o/ gogonuts [4d\]: w was too happyafter f2 Balaine [-\]: lol Wigz [8k\]: hurra\\o/ Balaine [-\]: black now thinking why he didn't play N6 goren2 [6k\]: l6? scurge [5d\]: n6 probably always sente no? Kanin [6d\]: ofcourse gogonuts [4d\]: L6 seems possible, yes YuaiYi [4d\]: good question ] ;B[kn]C[Wigz [8k\]: connect? Balaine [-\]: really ?if white connects then black would be in danger :d ] ;W[jo] ;B[in] ;W[il]C[quappe [3d\]: someone will die ;p Faonig [3k\]: :p Wigz [8k\]: sure goren2 [6k\]: m8? YuaiYi [4d\]: E3 Faonig [3k\]: this game will be finished with a resign, sure ; ) bert [2d\]: o5, n6, n7? Minotaur [1k\]: final fight dowloader [9k\]: n9 daladim [1d\]: has to semeai it Warfreak2 [4d\]: yesterday dai junfu was 8d ] ;B[dr]C[StrasChp2 [-\]: cool game Wigz [8k\]: no this game will finish with 0.5 :D Faonig [3k\]: lol gasana [3k\]: f2 was really provocation^^ Balaine [-\]: so Balaine [-\]: where is the second tesuji white thought up after K6 ? Balaine [-\]: that's what we're all interested in ] ;W[lm]C[Vanya [1k\]: now bn6 sente for sure mafutrct [-\]: e3? Wigz [8k\]: hhh ] (;B[km]) (;B[ll]C[daladim [1d\]: long time i didnt see cassis by the way Balaine [-\]: tu t'éclates StrasChp ? ] (;W[mm] ;B[jl]C[Faonig [3k\]: ? gogonuts [4d\]: uh oh ] ;W[ml] ;B[lk] ;W[lj] ;B[mk]C[Balaine [-\]: oO ]) (;W[km] ;B[jl]C[Vanya [1k\]: very fast indeed ] ;W[ml]C[belettego [13k\]: ??? ] ;B[lk] ;W[lj]C[Minotaur [1k\]: it's game ? ] ;B[mk]C[Wigz [8k\]: x) ToDie [4d\]: they played too fast Booster [2k\]: pls fire the operator! BWooster [1k\]: lol gogonuts [4d\]: this looks plausible ] ;W[hi]C[Arhiman [1d\]: w aim at j11 ? Wigz [8k\]: hoooo Arhiman [1d\]: oh... Faonig [3k\]: xD Wigz [8k\]: ajiii ] ;B[hh]C[kostuek [-\]: w dead in aji? gogonuts [4d\]: this has become brutish Minotaur [1k\]: this is real game ? Faonig [3k\]: sure Balaine [-\]: white had a dream Faonig [3k\]: lol Faonig [3k\]: requiem for it Minotaur [1k\]: or the operator trying sequences ? :) TeeSushi [2d\]: that one day all black will die in gote StrasChp1 [-\]: no it s the game gogonuts [4d\]: operator trying to read ahead :-) Balaine [-\]: yes Faonig [3k\]: ^^ Balaine [-\]: oO StrasChp1 [-\]: just a minute Booster [2k\]: pfffff ] (;W[nk]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: just there are playing very very fast gogonuts [4d\]: sry for teasing Arhiman [1d\]: operator is strong guys ! Vanya [1k\]: there are no players, just operator's thoughts belettego [13k\]: they play with "undo" ;) Minotaur [1k\]: crazy to play fast now :) Warfreak2 [4d\]: i'm the operator, with my pocket calculator goren2 [6k\]: only one move... Yasguri [-\]: Shicho doesn't seem to work ]) (;W[mi]C[Balaine [-\]: mdrr Wigz [8k\]: x) bert [2d\]: ha ha Faonig [3k\]: ... Wigz [8k\]: yey Balaine [-\]: ye, that seemd to be the right move StrasChp1 [-\]: I have many thing to make daladim [1d\]: what the freezer Booster [2k\]: remboursez ! st21 [-\]: wow Wigz [8k\]: remboursez quoi :3? StrasChp2 [-\]: bouh alain TeeSushi [2d\]: dont type but play then pls :D bert [2d\]: n7 scurge [5d\]: did you lost the game? Balaine [-\]: bon O9 only move daladim [1d\]: or have you lose it ? goren2 [6k\]: o9 StrasChp1 [-\]: no it s the game correct game with all move pupukani [3k\]: n10 Gylis [2d?\]: whit searching g11 aji ? daladim [1d\]: sry scurge, just for the lol, no offense ^^ scurge [5d\]: ok, you are cool :) YAshlyuha: just edit it, if you missed the moves. The order is less important because we want to see what happened :) daladim [1d\]: ^^ Vanya [1k\]: bn7 o9 o8 n10 m6 Pyv [?\]: playing fast then stopping when in atari Pyv [?\]: or maybe I'm just lagging ] ;B[mj]C[Balaine [-\]: lol bert [2d\]: n7 makes m3 o5 possible GocchiSama [1d\]: go bin go niark [3d\]: c'est le scribe qui perd la partie? StrasChp1 [-\]: dai thinking G 12 Hanne [2k?\]: now w must kill or lose ] ;W[lh]C[StrasChp1 [-\]: he changes gogonuts [4d\]: is this the current position? Balaine [-\]: ça a l'air desespéré ça ] ;B[gh]C[quappe [3d\]: wow GocchiSama [1d\]: G12 winning move quappe [3d\]: there was some really bad aji, it almost worked Thumb [1d?\]: Dai dai dai dai lamalama: i don`t see white`s point Mito [-\]: perhaps white dies Vanya [1k\]: bo16 may be dead Booster [2k\]: ok i want to show 7d after my name too ToDie [4d\]: now w in deep trouble Warfreak2 [4d\]: why didn't white play g12 earlier Balaine [-\]: so white says if i cut black i'm still ahead ? Verdeb [10k?\]: the final is played in one single game ? Faonig [3k\]: loool lamalama StrasChp1 [-\]: yes Verdeb [10k?\]: thx gasana [3k\]: kill n14? :P YuaiYi [4d\]: w may kil N18 b 's group YuaiYi [4d\]: but very little q11 [2d\]: kill n18 is smaller StrasChp1 [-\]: dai resign Wigz [8k\]: :'( daladim [1d\]: noooooooo ToDie [4d\]: wow Kanin [6d\]: looks like there were never any chances for white kentia [1k\]: yeah q11 [2d\]: well done cho StrasChp1 [-\]: and make some regret about f2 Kanin [6d\]: finally F2 turned out to be a huge overplay daladim [1d\]: played too fast x) q11 [2d\]: punished f2 well StrasChp2 [-\]: everyone on the third place game! gasana [3k\]: houra! Gylis [2d?\]: congrats cho PogoGo [?\]: b's patience paid off StrasChp1 [-\]: Cho win gogonuts [4d\]: impressive attack Balaine [-\]: kill and win Kanin [6d\]: although I think C6 is also questionable gogonuts [4d\]: w was looking good before the attack StrasChp2 [-\]: it was obvious dai would die with 2 weak groups :p Wigz [8k\]: that was pretty impressive Balaine [-\]: yes Kanin Yasguri [-\]: Dai resigned ? Murugandi [6d\]: thank you for the game goren2 [6k\]: it wasn't obvious - I thought he might almost pull though Wigz [8k\]: thx gogonuts [4d\]: yes, that was cool loikun [5k\]: CHO WINS StrasChp1 [-\]: they make some comments goren2 [6k\]: if w had n16, he would have lived in sente on top StrasChp1 [-\]: without f2 goren2 [6k\]: then, he would live in middle quappe [3d\]: f2 wasnt that bad, it also helped f6 group a bit because it made black bottom group weaker .. daladim [1d\]: i wanted dai to win ('-') kostuek [-\]: winning or losing not important, important only kibitz gasana [3k\]: ++ BigStan [2d\]: maybe try o12 ? goren2 [6k\]: what are the comments? q11 [2d\]: j18 was key to the attack StrasChp1 [-\]: about M17 Q 18 q11 [2d\]: very insightful move StrasChp1 [-\]: or the R17 q11 [2d\]: as it made a splitting attack st21 [-\]: kill o14 not enough StrasChp1 [-\]: thanks every body q11 [2d\]: thanks for broadcast st21 [-\]: w resign? StrasChp1 [-\]: see Straschp2 for the third place st21 [-\]: ah im see StrasChp1 [-\]: yes ])))))